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Ocean Policy and the Trump Administration

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                 DIALOGUE




  Ocean Policy and the

Trump Administration


                     Summary
Each presidential election brings the possibility of
large-scale changes in environmental policy. President
Donald Trump has not explicitly laid out ocean poli-
cies for his new administration, but he has provided
some clues; these policies ultimately will be important
for the ecological and economic health of the United
States and the world. On December 9, 2016, ELI con-
vened a panel of experts to discuss some key ocean
issues that the Trump Administration will face. Below
we present a transcript of the discussion, which has
been edited for style, clarity, and space considerations.


David Roche (moderator) is a Staff Attorney at ELI.
Addie Haughey is Associate Director of Government
Relations at the Ocean Conservancy.
Mike LeVine is Pacific Senior Counsel for Oceana.
Pete Stauffer is the Environmental Director of the
Surfrider Foundation.
Xiao Recio-Blanco is Director of the Ocean Program
at ELI.
Laura Cantral is a Partner at Meridian Institute.

David Roche: My name is David Roche, a staff attor-
ney with the Environmental Law Institute (ELI), and I'll
be your moderator today. This is the next installment in
our Ocean Seminar Series, which is on Ocean Policy and
the Trump Administration. We're on our 10th year of the
Ocean Seminar Series now, and we couldn't have done
this work without the support of the Naomi and Nehe-
miah Cohen Foundation, which has funded and been
instrumental in designing and supporting the seminar
series for years.
   ELI is a nonpartisan institution. We do not take politi-
cal stands or advocate, we do research and education.
However, we let the research and education we do speak
for itself. We start from the underlying assumption that
environmental conservation is important. However, how
we get there is subject to debate and we only lay out the
facts. In this Ocean Seminar Series, we give experts a venue
to engage in a productive way, and we have five great ones
on the line today. I'll introduce each of them as they speak.
   To build on the ocean theme, it helps to imagine the
U.S. federal government as a fleet of ships. In this analogy,


the president sets the course, but he isn't the pilot. He tells
agency heads what to do, who tell staffers what to do. The
agency heads are the ones steering. The ships are outfitted
by the U.S. Congress, which as we've seen over the last few
years can be a really big hurdle. The U.S. Supreme Court
is something like the Coast Guard in the seas. It is like the
Coast Guard for more reasons than it just being fun to
imagine Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in a sailor's cap. They
can direct traffic and they can change the course if they see
something wrong with it. And the American people are the
current, the wind. They have massive power to affect how
the ships move even after the course has been set.
  What can we expect from the Trump Administration?
It's tough to know for sure, but there are some hints. But
today we aim to dig a lot deeper than tweets. Obviously,
tweets can be politics, but that might not necessarily be
policy. So, what we're trying to do today is dig deeper.
  As we set this up, we received some questions and I just
want to address those briefly here.
   First, what can a president really do on ocean policy?
And the answer is a whole lot, especially when branches of
government align and there are like-minded agency heads.
   Second, maybe it would be best for ocean conserva-
tionists to lay low for four years? Well, while the presi-
dent himself might not be involved in every decision, his
appointees will. So, maybe it's not the best policy to expect
the details of ocean wonkhood to fall through the cracks, I
think that is probably unlikely.
  And finally, isn't it all just speculation at this point? Yes,
it definitely is, and I think we're going to have some spec-
ulation today. But when things do start moving, they're
going to be moving incredibly fast. Our hope is that by
starting a dialogue now, we're ready to blow the wind and
direct the current in a way that pushes the ships in the
direction that's best for what we care about, which here is
ocean and coastal issues.
  And with that, all this intro talk is over, and I'm really
excited to introduce you to the panel today. Our first panel-
ist is Addie Haughey from the Ocean Conservancy, where
she's the Associate Director for Government Relations.

Addie Haughey: David, thank you so much, and thanks
to ELI for offering this forum for folks to have these con-
versations. You talked a little bit about speculation, and I
do think it's important to be careful how much we specu-
late. What I'd like to do today is keep the speculation to
a minimum, but definitely offer some of the baseline facts


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