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11 IP Theory 1 (2022)

handle is hein.journals/ipthey11 and id is 1 raw text is: INTERVIEW BY ZACH SHEPARD AND CHRIS MCMILLAN WITH DAVID GINDLER, PARTNER, MILBANK LLP, AND JASPER TRAN, ASSOCIATE, MILBANK LLP Chris: Welcome to Fire of Genius, a podcast dedicated to all things intellectual property presented by the Indiana University Maurer School of Law's IP Theory journal. My name is Chris McMillan, I'm a 3L at Maurer, and I am the audio editor for IP Theory. Today's podcast will be cohosted by our Editor-in-Chief, Zach Shepard. Zach: Thanks, Chris. I'm Zach Shepard. I'm a 3L at the Maurer School of Law, and it is my pleasure to be here with Chris today to talk to two incredible scholars and practitioners in the IP community. Today's episode is part of IP Theory's eleventh volume, and we're pleased to welcome David Gindler and Jasper Tran to the show. David Gindler is a partner at Milbank LLP's L.A. office whose work spans a broad array of industries and technologies across the country. Mr. Gindler, would you like to tell the audience a bit about yourself and your career? David: Well, my career began in an odd way because as an IP litigator, when I was in college, the one thing I wanted to avoid, like the plague, was anything that looked like science because it looked like really, really hard to me. So math classes, biology classes, things that involved equations were sort of not my thing at all. Then I became a lawyer. And it wasn't until about 10 years into my practice where I sort of stumbled into doing a patent case. And it was actually a case involving technology to render graphics on a computer. This was a long time ago. The technology has moved on since then. But I discovered this incredible thing about IP law. People pay you money to learn how stuff works, and then you get to teach jurors and judges how it works, and I found that to be a lot of fun. And so now, although I have literally no scientific training, I have an undergraduate degree in philosophy, I deal with science all the time, and it is an incredibly rewarding part of my life and my practice. Chris: That's great, and I feel like I'm in your shoes a bit because I was a professional musician before I came to law school, and I have encountered it in the past four years, so I totally get it. David: One added note, I have a friend who's also an IP litigator; he was an English major, and he says, you know what, having been an English was the perfect undergraduate major for me because all the patents that I worked with are written in English. Zach: That's one way to look at it. Chris: Now, Jasper, you're an associate at Milbank and a member of the firm's litigation and arbitration group. Would you like to tell us a bit more about yourself? Jasper: Yes, thank you for having us here today. I'm a 7th year associate of Milbank L.A., focusing on patent litigation and a little bit of technology transactions. I have a more traditional IP career than David. I studied science as an undergrad at UC Berkeley, and then I heard from a class, an

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