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104-10180-10132 JFK Assassination Records Archives 1 (06/16/1961)

handle is hein.jfk/jfkarch75363 and id is 1 raw text is: 104-10180-10132 ?j 2022 RELEASE UNDER  THE PRESIDENT  JOHN  F. KENNEDY  ASSASSINATION   RECORDS  ACT  OF 1992






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                                                                 -        16 June 1961


                             - .' AN DUN FOR THE RECORD                    ;

                   -         53JECT:   Initial De riefing of Aih


       l.>Subject  was met at. the Hotel Dupont Plaza from 0930 to
  1515 on 15 June 1961.

      2., Most of  the conversation at this first meeting centered
  on debriefing of stayenind net, propaganda effectiveness and,
  primarily, !! R4 s own future.

      3.  ProoaiLia.'~ Subject stated that the fish symbol appears
 everywhere.  He has seen. the symbol in elevators, public buildings,
 public toilets, bus and train depots, park benches. etc.  His   .
 remark that,. -You were always conscious of tnem despite the fact
 that in most places they were taken down immeditely,  is quite
 indicative of the wide distibution  and use of the symbol. V.ost
 of the symbols that he saw were in chalk rather than the blue
 stamp.. Subject believes most people thoug'.t the fiLsh to be a
 Christian sirhol rather tan  a counterrevolutionary one.

      Subject had seen many clandestine newc-papers, leaflets, and
 paphlets  even up until the last moment of his departure. He
 listed Avaree, Rescate, Prensa Libre, Bohemia Libre and La -Narina
 as periodicals he had, seen. He saw them in private homes (most
 of the homes he visited were counter.revolutionary). Most of tne-
 copies were quite beat  'ip;,-idicating to hi-that they had been
 passed from nand to hand.  In his opinion, people treasure-i the
 copies that they had:, He cited the case of one girl who carried
 copies in her handbag to snow to other girls in her office. Luoject s
 only criticism of the periodicals was 'that at times they became a
 little too flowery. In his words, Tnere were too many adjectives.
 He -thoueht that a more .irect approach would be :pore effective.

     He claiz  that everybody listens to Radio Swan but nobody
believes it.  He mentioned one'Swan broadcyst which announced tiat
bodies were lying all over the lalecon and rotting in the sun.
Listeners went to view this and found that tnere were no oodi-s
there.  Voice of America is listened to and is quite highly regarded.
Subject cited two otrer oroadcasts that he considers cour.ter
revolutionary and unich are well thought of; one originates from
New York and one from Key  est.  He tninks that most people listen
to Miami when conditions are right.  I asked w^y people continue to
listen to Swan if it is so discredited.  He stated that, although
it is not believed, it is still a contact with tne outside world.
There is no penalty for listening and all peoplewill ope ly eiscusd


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