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104-10169-10277 JFK Assassination Records Archives 1 (4/1/1962)

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                                  RETURN  TO CIA
                                Background Use Only
                                Do  Not Reproduce

                                                April 1962

MORABJA    M        oiECCrD W0.
SUBJECT:  General Points Covered In Do-Briefing Subject.


      1.  Subject was asked if he know anycne by the name of
CARRILLO. Subject was noticably cautious, his reaction changed
quite sharply and then after some cconsioration he said yes he
knew a doctor by that name, CARRILLO, who was the judge in a
place called Guynia de .Miranda, Subject stated this individual
was a  judge for several years until he was taken prisoner and
is now on  the Isle of Pines. (De-1riefer's Comment:  This was
in order to find out if he could come up withey name which
follows now,  Justo CAhRILLO5 is one which            ill roe-
ognize  as having perhaps some significance to tnLa Individual.
After  some mulling around he said he had heard of his own, I
did  not suggest the name of Justo, he suggested it himself, -he
mulled  it around and he said he had heard of this individual as
being  a member of an organization, he had never seen him, he
does  not know and he thinks that he is in the United States*
The  specific significance of this will be examined later. We
can  use this as a control question in his examdnation.)

       2.  Subject was asked if he knew Aguedo LUGO y Rodriguez.
 Subject claima no knowledge of this person at all. (De-Briefer's
 Coment:   This latter individual is now in one of our other safe
 houses and claims to know this man very well and has seen him
 any#  many timesd. It is not pbasible for this individual to know
 (for Subject to know) Aguedo by any war name, because the man did
 not use one until after he had gone into the Argentine Embassy.)
 Subject was also asked if he know the name which was dreamed up
 by myself.  Subject did not tumble, but tried to reason out who
 it was.  He apparently was not trying to deceive me on this in-
 dividual.  Subject stated he had seen Raul Castro and Fidel Castro
 on one occasion in the Presedential Palace on the 13th of March
 1960,  Subject claims never to have spoken to them or treated with
 them directly.


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