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Answers to Questions for the Record following a Hearing Conducted by the Senate Committee on the Budget on Running the Government for less 1 (June 16, 2017)

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                                                                                      JUNE   16, 2017





             Answers  to Questions   for the Record   Following  a Hearing
               Conducted   by the  Senate  Committee   on the  Budget  on
                         Running   the Government for Less



On  May  17, 2017, the Senate Committee on the Budget convened a hearing at which Keith Hall,
Director of the Congressional Budget Office, testified about the costs of operating the federal
government.' After the hearing, Chairman Enzi, Senator Van Hollen, and Senator Warner
submitted questions for the record. This document provides CBO's answers. It is available
at www.cbo.gov/publication/52817.


Chairman   Enzi

Question.  You mentioned  at the hearing that converting the defined benefit portion of the
federal pension plans into a defined contribution would likely entail an up-front cost in
the budget window, with savings achieved only beyond the budget window.

Do  you believe that having the federal defined benefit pension plans (under both FERS and
CSRS)  scored on a cash-flow basis-instead of a long-term accrual basis-is the best way to
capture the budgetary impact of these pension programs?

Do  you think the current scoring methodology dissuades policy makers from appropriately
considering the long-term impact of changes to these pension programs?

Answer.  There is no single best way to capture the budgetary effects of federal pension
plans. As required by law, the Congressional Budget Office estimates the budgetary effects
of federal defined benefit pension plans on a cash basis-that is, transactions are recorded
when  annuity payments are made  or revenues are received. Although that method recognizes
the cost of outlays when they occur, it does not reflect the cost of expected future outlays
when  the commitment  to make  those outlays occurs.

Relative to cash estimates over a 10-year projection period, an accrual measure would offer
three advantages:

       U  The  cost of providing defined benefit annuities in the future would be recognized
          as employees earned those benefits. By contrast, cash-based measures do not
          recognize such costs until after workers leave federal service, making it difficult


1.  See Congressional Budget Office, CBO Director's Statement on the Cost of Government, CBO Blog
    (May 17, 2017), www.cbo.gov/publication/52729, and testimony of Keith Hall, Director, Congressional
    Budget Office, before the Senate Committee on the Budget, Costs ofFederal Civilian Personnel: A Comparison
    With Private-Sector Employees, 2011 to 2015 (May 17, 2017), www.cbo.gov/publication/52706.

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