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104-10145-10056 JFK Assassination Records Archives 1 (6/5/1978)

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            MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

            SUBJECT:   Meeting with Mr. Blakey



               1. I met with Mr. Blakey this morning shortly after 7:30 a.m.
           We  met together with Rodger Gabrielson until we went to a meeting with
           DDCI  Carlucci at 8:45 a.m., returning for another 10 minutes or so
           following the meeting with Carlucci. This memorandum records the
           highlights of discussions before and after Blakey met with Carlucci,
           which is the subject of a separate memorandum.

               2. I started by saying that the problem that was pending is one
           of principle in the protection of intelligence sources and methods. We
           did not feel it appropriate to have clandestine agents interviewed. We
           thought we had made this clear to Gary Cornwell before he went to
           Mexico.  I reviewed our conversation with Cornwell in which he had
           mentioned agents and non-official cover officials, the latter of which
           had been available to HSCA under. special arrangements. I said that as
           a result of Cornwell having raised that point, we felt we had made it
           completely clear that the HSCA would interview no agents and that we could
           not help in this- We had a general discussion about how the word agent
           is used technically, and how it had changed over the years. I made the
           distinction between staff employees and other categories of persons, noting
           that we do not refer to CIA staff employees as agents.

               3. We talked about the interview of a former agent in7  I
           attributed the failure of the HSCA to notify us of this to Danlardway's
           failure to understand what he had when he reviewed the file. I said that we
           understood their interest in the man as a right-wing Cuban terrorist but
           explained our sensitivity because of our past use of him in
           I said that we had been told that the man had not told the HSCA investigators
           anything.

              4.  Blakey argued the HSCA rationale for looking at the Mexico City
           Station. He said that the HSCA charter included investigation into how the
           Station was run. I opined that he would have difficulty judging the Station.
           Its mission was to operate against the Cuban and Soviets. Its surveillance
           program  was primarily to collect operational information, i.e., leads to
           persons who might have access, and to identify persons possibly working





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