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THE OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF CONGRESS, PUBLISHED BY JOHN C. IIVES, WASHINGTON, D. C.
TIIRT'Y-FOUnTH C0IGRESS, IST SESSION:.
FRIDAY, APRIL 4, 1856.
tii Ill hall be in fall of the per diem eompensation here-
Cir-lir td to be pid to ihem,and fiatSad per-onsand
lcaer. ni-ill not ba entlkd to receive both said permanent
cmp. n,'atton and said per diem.
Mr. HOUSTON. The objection which I have
to that aacndident-though I sympathize in the
view of thv gentlnian from Kentucky-is that
it s',s to iiply that the Senate intended to give
a doubei, compensation. I remarked that a double
salary was bew.- appropriated, one in the shape
of a cotititncney, and another under this specific
head. But I do not believe the Senate would
alliw a doulle salary to be paid out.
I -tppo,,d that the Cominittee of W'ays and
ILanls wmld have made the explanation which
th, ,'ntI, man from Missouri has now made, that
two additional officers had been created, and that
would hate sttled the matter at once.
Mr. SMITH, of Tennessee. I do not wish to
discuss the amendraent. I only wish to state that
II iatters of this kind I havegenerally followed
the advi,(c of the gentleman from Alabama, [Mr.
Hosxr,,,] the gecntlemal from Virginia, [Mr.
Lxcare ,J and my colleague, [M1r. Jo..s,] who
is now abeit. But as those gentlemen are novw
ditided, and I am not aol to see mny colleague, I
do net know how to vote. [Laughter.]
2Mr. LETCHER. If my friend from Tennes-
see will allow me to make a suggeation, I can
reli:xe his mind. The gentleman ifrom Alabama
ha. surr, deied, and there is no longer a division.
Mir. HOUSTON. The gentleman from Vir-
gpilu is just as much mistaken as he has been in
ewv x planation which he has attempted to
miake. He is the rmost unfortunate gentleman
I i'ave oerseen. [Laughtcr.] Itmaybe because
lie is upon the wrong side of the House to-day.
He is like the boy it the new school-house; he
has rot got the hang of that side of the House
yet. [Lauzlhtr.]
Mi. PHELPS. I suggest to the gentleman
froni Knitucky to withd/'v his amendment.
Mr. U.NDEM.WOD. If the gentleman from
Alabania is satisfied, I will withdraw it.
Mr. HOUSTON. I was only seeking for that
inforniation which I always seek in reference to
any appropriation before the Iouse, when it is
doubtful.
Mr. SMITH, of Tennessee. I move that there
be a cdl of the House, so that I may get my
collagu,: [Mr. JONE$] here. [Laughter.]
Mr. HOUSTON. I regret very mnuch the
lanatabl,' condition in which my friend from
Teimie-sc, finds himself; and all I have to say is,
that I w lidr that hle has not discovered that he
did not know how to vote earlier.
The CI-LARMAN. Thernotionis outoforder.
Mr. UNDERWOOD. I withdraw my amend-
nit at.
Mr. CAMPBELL, of Ohio. The Committee
of 'Ways and MeanS recommend a concurrence
in the winidments of the Senate, from one to
fourte,_i. I ask that they may all be read.
The Clerk read the amendments, as follows:
4 1) F,,r ti, compen-ition of the officers, clerks, mes-
tiuelr-,and ,th.rs recnviag an anrual salary m the servie
Of ti 50:nat.'
(2) For zbi chief clerk and clerk to the Committee on
(A.) for conting-nt expenses of the Senate:
(4) For liodiei,.$I,4ill.
.1) For ithographma- and engravinz, 1-25,000.
d) r .r llliee'llareouas tems,Z5,0,10.
i) For the eontrngentexpensZs of the House of 1lepre-
selitatil' 1
( ) F,,r the compltion of the binding of documents
ordered t b, print id fir the ue of the House, m9,715 5t.
(9) F-riie sorapltinof tie engraving ordered at the
second bve--sa Of the ThlrtyThird Co frs, $159,000.
(10) F, ,r ti engra ins of niap-, chtarts, and other platen
anill~ Isax do heum, nis ordred to be printed at the first
i, the Thirty-F-mrih Congr0'', 19,000.
(15) Fr -tit aorv br nin:iber-, . 4,009.
(Ui) rr iiw pav;)f 0 rk-. upon the land maps for the
11-' ,, t,, iqiitcc On Public Land&, .56,770 t0.
(1) 1,,r ti' pay otf inii iAcrk, to comnittee. of the
Ht-, and r r olution of the pre.ent.-ioiu,. 5,50i.
'Mr. HAVEN. I wi'h to make an inquiry. I
see that these items for deficiencies in printing and
engravin amount to over six hundred and nine
thousand dollars. I would like to inquire whether
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the committee recommends concurrence in these
items, and if they can tell us briefly so as to un-
derstand them? I would like to know how this
enormous amount stands unpaid and unprovided
for to this time? I do not ask for a long explana-
tion, but I would like to know whether the comr-
mittee recommend concurrence ?
Mr. CAMPBELL. We do, and that recom-
mendation is predicated on a letter from the Clerk
-docunent No. 30.
The question was taken; and the amendments
were severally concurred in.
The Clerk reported the fifteenth amendment, as
follows:
For miscellaneous item-,10,000.
Mr. CAMPBELL. The Committee of Ways
and Means recommend concurrence in that
amendment with an amendment striking out the
word ten and inserting twenty. The reason
for that increase grows out of the resolution ap-
propriatn that su to defray the expenses of the
Kansas investigating committee.
The aniendment to the amendment was agreed
to; and the amendment, as amended, was con-
curred in.
The Clerk reported the siteenth amendment,
as follows:
To enable the Clerk to purchase the Statutes at Large
for the use of members of the House of Representatives, per
resolution of February 21, 1$56, $5,2d5.
Mr. CAMPBELL. The Committee of Ways
and Means recommend concurrence in thlat
muendroent with an amendment, which I ask to
have read.
The amnendmenitto the amendment was reported,
as follows:
To pay John C. Rives a balance due for reporting and
pubhisling in the Daily Globe the proceedings of tie Hou-e
of Representatives for ihe sccond c-s.ia of the Thiirtv-Third
Congress, .$1,177 50.
To enable the Clerk of the House of Representatives to
pay John C. Pives for reporting and publishiui in the Daiy
Globe the proceedings of ce tlou-e of Represcntarives icr
the first sesion of the Thirty-Fourth Congre-, prior to fle
first of July, 156, 517iV0.
To enabie the Clerk of the House of Representatives to
pay for one hundred copies of the continuaton of tie
Annals of Congrcss tbr the library of the Hou'xc of Repro-
sentative. during the present fiscal N ear, ,1:,5 90.
To enable the Clerk of the House of Representatives to
pay for the continuation of tie Annals of Con-re-ss for the
members of the Thirty-Second Cong5re. ,,3.0,9.
The amendment to the amendment was agreed
to; and the amendment as armended concurred in.
The Clerk reported the seventeenth amnend-
ment, as follows :
.PF IN Pre.-To supply deficiencies in the appro-
priation for pnntirh and paper ordered at the first se,-lon
of the Thirty-Thud Congre's, .$7,173.
Mr. CAMPBELL. The Committee of Ways
and Means recommend concurrence.
The amendment was concurred in.
The Clerk reported the eighteenth amendment
as follows:
Tosupplydeficiencies in the appropriation for prinung
and paper f the second session ot file Thirty-Third Con-
gress, which deficiencies were transferred to tie account
of the first session of the Thirty-Fourth Congress, in vir-
tue of the joint resolution approved February 7, 1056,
4,-244,lc S 95.
Mr. CAMPBELL. The Committee of Ways
and Means recommend concurrence in that amend-
ment.
The amendment was concurred in.
The Clerk then reported the nineteenth amend-
ment, as follows:
To provide for engraving the maps and drawings accom-
panying the reports ofexplorationq and surveys to deter-
ine a Pacific railroad route, 49,020, or so muc-h thereof a.
may be nece-sary, and the said maps and drawig- shall
be engraved to tile satisfaction of the Secretary of War.
TMr. CAIPBELL. The Committee of Ways
and Means recommend a concurrence in tlat
amendment.
Mr. COBB, of Georgia. Mr. Chairman, I am
opposed to the adoption ofthis amendment recom-
mended bv the committee. There is no inforn-
ation that'I have been able to get hold of showing
the extent to which the Government will become
committed for the expense of this printing and
engraving, if we go on orderin g if as proposed by
tlii aedndeiit. I think mvelf that it is a bad
rule to commence an expenditure of this, or of
any other character, until there is some cstimato
behbre Cone'ress by which we are enabled to foria
an opinion v's to tIhe extent of the expvns' the
Governmeit will incur. I trust the app 'pria-
tion will not be macdo till we ha ve some dat on
vwhich to form a ind~ient.
ir. NICHOLS. 'I think it is alniost too late
now to interpose objections to the appropriatioil.
A large part of the w-ork has been done, even a4
to the volumnea which are to coue after the first.
They are now in progress. A part of them have
been execeid, founded on the order of th, lo.t
House; and I do not know well how to top it,
without suffering more loss by . topping it than
you will by allowoin it to go oil.
The obection maght, have been taken, Mr.
Chairman'; and it was intimated by the gentleronn
from New York [Mr. H tx au] o% 6- the way, whin
it was proposed at tbe lst sea ioo of Coll'ss to
print the Report of the Japan Excediion by Com-
modore Perry. The gentleman i'om N'ev York,
I say, inthinted thatt it was unwise to print that
report, because the document :as not in tho
pos',eSsion of the House. It was admitted that it
had never been before the Conmittee on Pritin g
at the tirmc the resolution was introduced. Had
that objection bean sitatained by the House, it
would htove been a good thing ibr the cntry.
I say, it w ould have been well, for this ideatic'al
work is costng the Governmiarct, even in the ap-
propriations nov asked for, for beyond what av-
body supposed when its publication was author-
ized.
Now, sir, there is one volume of the Pac ic
railroad smte'ev already publisled. The other
volumes arc to contain the reports o the di'rent
officers in charge of the Several surveys the t wer
made. Th.- preparation of thc-e ;eports, as I
understalnd it, is sow 'oili- on. The am anilrapt
is not coiplht'd, &o th-at it is imposible to foruo
any approximate esornate of the extent of the
work. 'With a good deal of labor, howevr, the
chief clerk of the Superintendent of Public Print-
ing, has arrived at as lnear an approximation of
what we are to expect as possible', and here is his
sta'ement. It is but jius, however, to that entle-
lrmal, to append hi.' not rtcing these C.stlates.
0.; ICL Se7fPNTe rN'eT FCLIC PiN'- i,
'.J'iOGTesN 2''5'- 3t., 1'
Sit.- In r'py to k ile th _ C.'til -,i taxt, I l':ve the
hlon U o iitiithe 1flowia tctail'd 5 -tntate- oi the eo0t
of Coiiaodir' Pntrrru ' r hiot on Jp., the Paetfi Rail-
road)Report,,adtheoepeei-toiLitt i titttillLiL, It 'iauld
be borne in ind that tu- as bit -e iilve, and -oin' of
thciii based upor very oc- Qr int snarto-thie Cesmpleta
copy for neiter of thai everr havnlI. en m till, othee.
I tato i e N ,La , n, re2itly to your ieI[L , the' cost of tho
Re'ports oath iiiazon h1ir, ty Lieutenants llerndo and
ilbbon.
Very rep,ctfuliy, your obedient sernart,
WILL. TOWERS,
For A. G. S.EAMAN, Sal.'smie.
HOn. M. H. N1Ii'OLs, C7 lirrln C1,u)mt.Ce On, P, 'sll mi ,
Hots ' ot Reprco i' 1-.
Pa-ific rzah'oad Rejsrt.-Thesc report; are estinatcd
to make six quarto vlumne, one of wich ha been cor-
pleted. The Stnate has ordered th' printing of 12,400
copies, and the House 11,52) copies, niaig W 5,20 copies
of each ofsix volune-, or 143,500 volumes.
The cost of the first volunie, which contains no engi-av-
illg i. as tllovs :
Lettner pr-s printing .................... 91
Papec................................ 1,0-_ 91
Binding ................. .......... 11 S
,53,'- 07
Upon the eot of the fir,- volume Is based the follon.mg
etninate of the iPntrre worA, to wit:
Letter-pres. printing ...................... .7G,877 29
Paper................................ 12,773 46
inding .................................. l1:. 37 68
E tinuated ei e of enq-'v.ig ............... . ',Jt0 V)
E-timated cost of the entire work, cssaptcte. $ 127. i
Mr. Chairman, this estimate anpeoscuas as,
nearly to the true result tS to the extent of this
work, and, as to the amount its publication will
cost, as it is possible to arrive at in the prcswnt
unfinished state of the work.
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