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handle is hein.cbhear/cbhearings81222 and id is 1 raw text is: FOREIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT FINANCING,
AND      RELATED        PROGRAMS APPROPRIA-
TIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 21, 2004
U.S. SENATE,
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS,
Washington, DC.
The subcommittee met at 2:35 p.m., in room SD-124, Dirksen
Senate Office Building, Hon. Mitch McConnell (chairman) pre-
siding.
Present: Senators McConnell, Shelby, DeWine, Leahy, and Dur-
bin.
UNITED STATES AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL
DEVELOPMENT
STATEMENT OF ANDREW S. NATSIOS, ADMINISTRATOR
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
STATEMENT OF AMBASSADOR COFER BLACK, COORDINATOR FOR
COUNTERTERRORISM
OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR MITCH MC CONNELL
Senator MCCONNELL. The hearing will come to order. I want to
welcome Mr. Natsios and Ambassador Black. Thank you for being
here today. Our hearing is on foreign assistance and international
terrorism, a topic of keen interest, not only to our subcommittee
but to all the people in the world who are free and would like to
remain so. Senator Leahy, I believe, is on his way. We will both
make some opening remarks and then be followed by the two of
you, first Mr. Natsios and then you, Ambassador Black. In the in-
terest of time I'm going to ask our witnesses to summarize their
remarks and then we will proceed to 5-minute rounds of questions
and responses.
A final piece of housekeeping. Due to last minute travel require-
ments, HIV/AIDS Coordinator Tobias will be unable to participate
in the April 28 hearing on the fiscal year 2005 HIV/AIDS budget
request. Staff will be working with the State Department to re-
schedule the hearing for some time next month and we will make
an announcement once that date has been reached.
I want to make a few brief historical reflections. Understanding
the looming threat of the axis powers to America, President Roo-
sevelt said in his Arsenal of Democracy speech in December 1940,
that no man can tame a tiger into a kitten by stroking it. There

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